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Commissioner possibly partisan

Published: Thursday, March 18, 2010

Updated: Friday, March 19, 2010

UPDATE: A typographical error has been fixed since this article went to print.  Before, it read, "Considering that one candidate, John Valdespino, was disqualified for creating his Facebook group...." The original piece is as follows.

 

Dear Editor,

Now that the elections are over and we have our new SGA president — Kate Gremillion — is it too late to ask questions about the fairness of the elections procedure?

As I see it, the most obvious slant in Gremillion’s favor was the way in which the debate was conducted. The Commissioner of Elections, Isabelle Duran, a sorority sister of Gremillion’s, moderated, and made it very clear whom she favored.

Not only did the moderator interrupt the audience to ask her own question (to which Gremillion had a marvelous answer — stock question?) and allow Gremillion to answer first every time, but she allowed Gremillion rebuttals that were not rebuttals, but  time extensions for Gremillion to further her point.

Using one’s sorority sisters to lob stock questions from the audience is one thing; using them to moderate “nonpartisan” debates is an entirely different issue that infringes upon the other candidate’s right to campaign on an even playing field.

Considering that one candidate, John Valdespino, was banned from using Facebook for creating his Facebook group two hours before the allotted time (even though he invited no one), these issues at the debate are serious. It seems that the elections supervisor took her job as seriously as a Boot bouncer checking for fake IDs. “No problem, girls, but no wristband for you sir.”

However, I commend the winner. It turns out SGA politics are a little more complicated than we thought. Apparently running without a party is a quick route to not getting elected. Sorry, Cody, next time don’t spend so much time selling yourself as qualified for the job; instead, find a large campus interest group to be your party, might I suggest our local revolutionaries, LUCAP?



Zachary Lombardo

music industry junior

 

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39 comments

Anonymous
Tue Apr 27 2010 22:32
Anonymous needs to keep his/her/its comments to him/her/itself. He/she/it should be taken off this website.

I heard Gremillion slept her way to being elected anyway.

Anonymous
Mon Apr 12 2010 22:23
Lombardo needs to learn to keep his ridiculous thoughts to himself. He should be taken off the paper.
Anonymous
Sun Mar 21 2010 23:18
Dear Anonymous,

Please stop posting. You are not intelligent. Also, nobody likes you.

Thanks,
Anonymous

Anonymous
Sun Mar 21 2010 20:53
Zachary Lombard,
Umm, I don't think you know who you are messing with. This is unacceptable behavior and you can consider yourself shunned. You are messing with the futures of a couple of smart, beautiful, women, and that is like not a nice thing to do.
student
Sun Mar 21 2010 13:33
Many thanks to law alum for making sense unlike everyone else, whose legal knowledge seems to be confined to Law and Order content and Grisham novels.
Anonymous
Sun Mar 21 2010 12:42
I bet the Maroon doesn't even have a code of ethics
Law alum
Sun Mar 21 2010 12:26
As a lawyer and Loyola Law alum, I have to chime in here about all the bad legal interpretations being tossed around here.

First lets address "(Wells v. Libby)"

OK, first, why don't we be clear. What you are trying to quote is Wells V. LiDDY, as in G. Gordon Liddy.

Negligent spelling aside, lets look at the facts from that case. First, it is important to recognize that Ida Maxwell Wells, a secretary for the Democratic National Committee and the plaintiff in the case who was claiming defamation, lost the case. (So, I wouldn't be quoting that as precedent if I were you).

That said, lets take anonymous' advice and look at this case to see if the SGA Commissioner of Elections, should be considered a limited public figure in the context of her duties for the government:
(hint: she is)

In Liddy, the Court established a five-part test for whether someone is a limited public figure:

"Wells V. Liddy

Before a plaintiff can be classified, as a matter of law, as a limited purpose public figure, the defendant must prove that:

(1) the plaintiff has access to channels of effective communication"
(well, her job was to promote and coordinate the elections, so I would hope that she had access to communication)

"(2) the plaintiff voluntarily assumed a role of special prominence in the public controversy;"
(She was not forced to become Commissioner of Elections. She chose to do so. An election is obviously a public controversy.)

"(3) the plaintiff sought to influence the resolution or outcome of the controversy;"
(Elections are the natural resolution for a campaign, and as Commissioner of Elections, she obviously sought to influence the outcome of that controversy -- namely, to effect an orderly election)

"(4) the controversy existed prior to the publication of the defamatory statement; and"
(Both the elections and her actions as commissioner predated the letter to the editor in question here)

"(5) the plaintiff retained public-figure status at the time of the alleged defamation."
(she was commissioner of elections at the time the letter was published)

Unlike a secretary, who's voluntary involvement is limited to answering phones for an office, a commissioner of elections has actively thrust herself into the public spotlight to help resolve a matter of concern to the general public.

So, yes, she is a public figure.

Public figures need to be prepared to withstand public critique and comment addressing the job they have done as a public figure. If the criticism in question was about, say, her family, then that would not be privileged because that has nothing to do with the role she assumed when she thrust herself into the public spotlight.

But as it stands, the criticism in question is about the job she did as commissioner of elections. This is just like a musician complaining about a bad review, or a newspaper complaining that people criticize their work.

When you step into the public spotlight, you need to be prepared for what the public might say about you.

Why don't leave the legal questions to the lawyers, and if you don't want to be in the public spotlight, then I would suggest refraining from taking public office in the future.

There is no libel here, and if someone came to me or any of my partners, our firm would laugh them out of our office.

That said, if you feel you have been unfairly criticized, then I would suggest you use the same forum as your accuser and defend the job you did in a letter to the editor.

Anonymous
Sat Mar 20 2010 18:50
-1540

Pretty sure that he was being sarcastic...

1540 member
Sat Mar 20 2010 18:31
Hey Anonymous,

Why in the world would you claim that the paper is printing libel, and they you go and libel Father Wildes by accusing him of censorship.

I quote: "Thank God for the fact that Fr. Wildes stepped in to prevent the print paper from being published."

That is an entirely false statement, as proven by the printed newspaper being in every building on campus. You can't just go around making things up and publishing lies that would tarnish someone's reputation in the same breath as you ignorantly criticize a paper for doing the same.

Next time, check your facts before you go running off at the mouth.

Nick Courtney
Sat Mar 20 2010 16:19
I have been trying not to post on this article, as the tone of this forum seems to be that of an 8th-grade cafeteria table. Still, for the sake of the integrity of this debate, I feel the need to point out at least a few things.

First, people need to start dealing with the actual arguments and allegations. Stop reading beyond the text; whatever you may think someone is saying, you can only go on what is actually written--especially if you are making accusations of illegality. All of these incensed comments about Lombardo accusing Duran of rigging the election seem to me to textually unfounded. At most, he accuses her of being unprofessional and playing favorites; he does not actually attribute Gremillion's victory to this favoritism. If anything, he attributes that victory to the structure of SGA that allows it to be dominated by "parties".

Second, ad hominem attacks need to stop. If people would stop attacking Lombardo and Duran, actual conversation about the legitimacy of these claims could begin.

Finally, people need to stop hiding behind anonymity. Take some accountability for your thoughts. If everyone had to put their identity on this board, perhaps many of the asinine comments would disappear. I can assume that nearly everyone on this site is a legal adult; why are so few people acting like it? Really?

Anyway, those are my thoughts. If you want to know what I think of the actual issues, I would love to have a conversation about it. However, I would only do that in person at this point, as I frankly don't trust this forum.

Anonymous
Sat Mar 20 2010 15:29
(to comment below) that is a very good point, but thats not what the article said--- your missing the point

the article is not saying whether or not she was professional or if she knew how to pronounce the candidates names, it is accusing her of basically "rigging" the elections through lies and attacks to her character

Anonymous
Sat Mar 20 2010 15:24
Despite Zachary's unprofessionalism, it most certainly should be argued that Ms. Duran was unprofessional. At the end of the debate, she thanked Ms. Gremillion for participating and then attempted to thank Mr. Dardeau, but ended up saying, "Mr. Dar- Dar- sorry I don't know how to say your name!" A note for the future Commissioner of Elections: If you are getting paid to hold a debate, you should at least learn the names of those participating.
Anonymous
Sat Mar 20 2010 15:14
isabelle is not only president of ISA but is also vp of her sorority and a research assistant and has three majors---International business, finance and economics... sounds to me like she's a good/hardworking person and doesnt deserve this kind of treatment from anyone, especially the maroon
Anonymous
Sat Mar 20 2010 14:02
i heard that Zach Lombardo is the commissioner of the Sodexo workers union!! it's a witch, GET HIM!
Anonymous
Sat Mar 20 2010 11:47
I cannot believe you, Zach, a Music Industries Studies Major do not realize the depth of your callous attacks on a student with false statements. You seriously need to take a law course as all business and journalism majors are required to take and learn what slander/libel are. No matter your feelings of Ms. Duran, you cannot attack her with lies in the effort to voice your anger at her. No matter how you feel, you have no right to say what you have said.

If I were you, I would prepare for the battle ahead of you by hiring an attorney because if I were any of the individuals you have defamed in this editorial, I would sue the hell out of you. Things posted on the internet will last forever. EVERYONE you have discussed on the editorial will have employers who will search out their information and find this article. Congratulations...you have effectively tainted their record for LIFE. You should 1) be barred from writing from the Maroon and 2) Be expelled from this university. You have truly gone against the identity of this Jesuit instituation.

And to the Maroon staff... you have gone against everything taught in the communications department regarding ethical/legal journalism. You ought to be ashamed of the fact that you are the first Maroon staff to publicly accuse someone of rigging an election. You have proven to me that the worst/most challenged item on campus is your "newspaper" which is nothing more than toilet paper scrawled with libel. I am angry at the fact my tuition/student fees help supplement such junk and have helped pay to slander someone who is a strong contributor to the Loyola community. Check out her record of involvement in not only her sorority (which it seems is a moving target for attack) but also her academics and leadership with ISA. You have just left a stain on her record by even posting this onto the internet.

Thank God for the fact that Fr. Wildes stepped in to prevent the print paper from being published.

Zachary Lombardo
Fri Mar 19 2010 20:10
As this comment section has no way to of verifying identities, I would like to point out that the previous Zach Lombardo was not Zach Lombardo as they purported to be.
Zach Lombardo
Fri Mar 19 2010 19:19
Ok ok i just want to apologize. I shouldn't have written this. Didn't think anyone would care this much.
Anonymous
Fri Mar 19 2010 19:12
yeah! no need for juicy campus when you've got the maroon!
Anonymous
Fri Mar 19 2010 17:23
This thread should be moved to College ACB, where Loyola Greek Life usually voices its opinion.
Anonymous
Fri Mar 19 2010 16:39
maroon owes these women a formal apology, and by that i dont mean an email






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