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SGA uses executive session as private forum

Staff Writer

Published: Thursday, March 7, 2013

Updated: Thursday, May 9, 2013 18:05


A new proposed constitution was drafted behind closed doors during an executive session, a little known tactic, used at Loyola Student Government Association meetings.

The SGA by-laws address executive session without using the term executive session.

“Attendance at meetings shall be open to anyone. A 2/3 vote of the General Assembly [of those present] is required to expel any person from a meeting,”as cited in Article I, Section 2.

Several interviews, including senators, former senators, executive staff and the SGA adviser, have revealed various interpretations of how SGA can invoke executive session.

Executive session is ‘crucial’

Sean Rose, current SGA senator and vocal performance sophomore, said executive session is crucial to avoid hurt feelings.

“I believe executive session is necessary for SGA to discuss their opinions of the initiatives or charters presented in senate without possibly offending those bringing the initiatives to senate,” Rose said.

Rose said he believes the closed meetings benefit the students forced to leave.

“In my mind, executive session is a courtesy to the students sitting in on a senate meeting, as it provides a space in which senators can be honest about how they feel about presented initiatives or charters without making the students bringing forth those initiatives and charters feel personally attacked, denied, etc.,” Rose said.

Shannon Donaldson, vice president of communication, and Michael Falotico, executive vice president, agree executive session is crucial to avoid outside influences.

The purpose of executive session is to “make decisions without outside influence,” Donaldson said.

Concerning information discussed in executive session, Donaldson said, “The public doesn’t necessarily need to hear or participate in.”

Rose, Falotico, Courtney Williams, SGA adviser, and Donaldson agree executive session is crucial because some things need to stay private.

The purpose of executive session is for planning and where “larger scale decisions are made,” Williams said.

Falotico said he believes executive session allows senators a time to be honest that they wouldn’t necessarily have otherwise.

“So people are comfortable to voice their opinions, everyone can be honest,” Falotico said.

Falotico said he believes SGA is “more effective behind closed doors.”

Falotico said talking about things of little interest is a reason for executive session and that executive session wouldn’t be called for normal things.

Executive session was discussed as being reserved for “internal organization matters” and “technically matters students aren’t concerned with,” Falotico said.

An estimate for the amount of times, given by Falotico, that executive session takes place is between two and three times a semester.

This estimate has already reached its limit. As of Thursday, March 7, executive session has been invoked at least three times this semester.

Executive session: outrage?

Andrew Kettle, Leah Vidayweiss, Alexa Golanka and Allison Cormier agree that executive session decisions are made without student oversight.

Kettle, psychology freshman, said “I don’t see any reason for them to withhold the truth.”

Vidayweiss, history freshman, said she believes SGA should be accountable to students because we elect the representatives.

Golanka, accounting junior and former SGA senator, said she believes the students deserve open meetings.

“It’s our money. We should know what’s going on with it,” Golanka said.

Cormier, political science freshman, said, “I don’t have a choice to give funding, we should be aware of everything that’s going on.”

Victoria Walsh, Gasparri, Hutchinson and Cormier agree that elected representatives should do student work in the light of day.

Walsh, mass communication freshman, said she believes student have the right to know.

“It’s our student government, we deserve to know,” Walsh said.

Isabella Gasparri, music industry study senior said she believes students will benefit from being able to attend all SGA meetings.

“Student body will benefit from hearing all sides of an issue,” Gasparri said.

Mary Kate Hutchinson, mass communication sophomore and previous SGA intern, said she believes that students will benefit from having the opportunity to be more involved with their SGA.

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9 comments

Lucy Dieckhaus
Fri Mar 15 2013 00:43
I would be more than happy to sit down and discuss my article with any interested Loyola student. Please feel free to contact me at ljdieckh@loyno.edu.
2L at Loyola Law
Tue Mar 12 2013 22:04
Oh dear Garret... I always enjoyed having you in classes with me because I knew you would hold the professor accountable and bring up good topics for conversation, but I am afraid you are wrong here.

While committees do not have to report their actions in the minutes according to Robert's Rules, there is nothing in Roberts Rules that says Committee Work must be done behind closed doors. On the contrary, Roberts Rules explicitly says "Any society adopting this manual should make its rules govern them in all cases to with they are applicable and in which they are not inconsistent with the By-Laws and Rules of Order of the Society."

Unfortunately that means that the SGA by-laws take precedence. Those by-laws mandate that 1) all meetings are open to any interested student and 2) ejecting anyone from a meeting requires a 2/3 majority.

Also, while we are on the topic of Roberts Rules, as a scholar, you should know that nothing can be voted on while in Committee. You should also know that according to subsection 28 "The rules of the assembly, as far as possible, shal apply in committee"

All that can be done by a committee, according to Roberts Rules, is debate the issue draft and a report. Once the committee work is concluded, the issue must then be brought before the body again and be debated and brought to a formal vote. This is just a sophomoric interpretation of Roberts Rules and it makes me sad that as a Law student, SGA has no jurisdiction over me.

Garrett Fontenot
Tue Mar 12 2013 09:07
FYI...

The proceedings of the SGA Senate are governed by Robert's Rules of Order (even if the Senate is not always the best at understanding them and how they work). As per Robert's Rules, the Senate requires a simple majority affirmative vote to move any matter to committee. Technically, when the Senate enters "executive session," they are moving a matter to a "committee of the whole," meaning a committee consisting of the entire membership of the Senate. Meeting as a committee of the whole, the Senate is not bound to hold its discussions publicly (committee work is by nature more private). When the Senate resolves itself to meet as a committee of the whole, it is, by custom at Loyola, called an executive session. Since, as Ms. Dieckhaus mentioned, it is not directly mentioned in the by-laws, Robert's Rules take precedent, and the 2/3 vote required to expel someone from a meeting would only apply to an individual at a public meeting of the Senate.

If this sounds sketchy, note that most of the sensitive work of the Continental Congress during the early years of the United States was conducted while the congress was resolved into a committee of the whole. Also, the entirety of the US Constitution was drafted in secret by the Federal Convention.

Another note, having served on Senate for 3/4 of my time at Loyola, I will note that executive session in the SGA Senate was used fairly frequently in sensitive situations and, in the past, without controversy. I applaud the lack of the need for it in the SGA this year, however, I encourage the Senate to use it when appropriate. I also encourage the public to understand why it is necessary. Please do not claim that this is a new, scandalous development. The SGA Senate should, of course, be accountable to students, but should also be given the freedom to discuss, in the most appropriate manner, sensitive issues to best protect the interests of students.

BACK THE PACK
Sat Mar 9 2013 12:26
Morsi and his cronies drafted THEIR CONSTITUTION behind CLOSED DOORS as well. It worked out GREAT for Egypt, so why not Loyola??? ::::throws up in own mouth::::

Oooooohhhhhh and make sure you keep all those behind-closed-doors chit-chats on the down-low, or the frat-daddys in charge will SPANK YOU!!

Anonymous
Sat Mar 9 2013 01:13
Sorry. My bad. Then (s)he needs to sack up.
Anonymous
Sat Mar 9 2013 01:09
*cough* that Courtney "chick" is actually a dude. *cough*
Anonymous
Fri Mar 8 2013 21:02
Yeah, someone needs to tell that Courtney chick that we pay the SGA fee. We elect the SGA officials. We have the right to know what the SGA is up to. She needs to teach the SGA how to run a democratic government, not set up a tyrannical monarchy. Isn't her job to teach them and not let them run amok? If not, why is she even at Loyola? Are we wasting our money on her salary just like we are apparently wasting our money on the Secretive Government Association?
Anonymous
Fri Mar 8 2013 19:21
Who is the SGA advisor? How can she be letting them get away with this?
Anonymous
Fri Mar 8 2013 19:01
We work best behind closed doors? Really? Maybe that should be Folatico's campaign slogan.




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